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THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED AS FOLLOWS ON MONDAY, 4TH DECEMBER
2000 AT 10.30AM:
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CHAIRMAN: Before counsel for the Tribunal opens the
matters in relation to which evidence will be adduced
at this week's sittings, I wish to refer briefly to the
matter of the health of Mr. Charles Haughey.
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On foot of the matters that have already been referred
to in public sittings, the Tribunal has arranged
examinations of Mr. Haughey by two suitably qualified
medical consultants. The need for the latter
examination became apparent only upon receipt of the
initial report. The latter of these two reports has
only come to hand in extremely recent days.
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In the context of insuring fairness to Mr. Haughey and
seeking to ensure, as far as possible, that all
relevant medical data necessary to ground an informed
view on this important matter are considered, I am
deferring, until Thursday at these sittings, a more
detailed statement in relation to this matter. On
that occasion, it is proposed that what has transpired
will be set forth along with what is intended in
relation to the ongoing involvement with this Tribunal
of Mr. Haughey.
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Mr. Healy?
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OPENING STATEMENT WAS GIVEN AS FOLLOWS BY MR. HEALY:
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MR. HEALY: Yes, Sir.
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Now, Sir, the evidence in these sittings will cover a
number of distinct areas, not directly relating to one
another. In the main it will relate to evidence
already given at earlier sittings in connection with a
number of different matters.
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The first matter I want to mention is the evidence of
Mr. Joseph Malone. You will recall, Sir, that an
affidavit of Mr. Malone's was opened in the last
sittings and it was indicated at those sittings that in
due course Mr. Malone will be giving evidence along the
lines of his affidavit and if necessary an
amplification of his affidavit and this evidence, the
Tribunal expects to be able to call in the next few
days.
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I want to mention evidence to be given by Mr. Tony
Traynor. The Tribunal has had a number of dealings
with Mr. Traynor, the son of the late Mr. Desmond
Traynor. Mr. Tony Traynor has already given evidence
to the Tribunal and he has provided the Tribunal with a
considerable amount of assistance concerning his
knowledge of his father's dealings with Mr. Haughey and
he will be giving evidence very briefly in the course
of these sittings in connection with his knowledge of
his father's regular meetings with Mr. Haughey at
Mr. Haughey's home.
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You will recall that Mr. Haughey has given evidence
concerning his recollection of the extent of his
dealings with the late Mr. Traynor. From
Mr. Haughey's evidence, it would appear that their
dealings were not necessarily very regular or very
frequent. Mr. Tony Traynor has now provided the
Tribunal with further information concerning this
matter. This is limited to what was stated to him by
his father and is based on information he has obtained,
having consulted with his mother and other members of
his family. He has informed the Tribunal that his
recollection is that his father used to meet with
Mr. Haughey at Mr. Haughey's house in Abbeville on
Saturday mornings very frequently, perhaps most
Saturday mornings, but at least on two Saturday
mornings per month on average.
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His recollection is that his father would be away from
the family home on those Saturday mornings for at least
two hours. He also recalls that sometimes his father
met with Mr. Haughey on Sundays. His recollection is
that these meetings appear to have taken place up to
the time of his father's death in 1994 and he does not
recall any change in the pattern of the meetings up to
that time. He has no knowledge of any of the matters
discussed at the meetings between his late father and
Mr. Haughey as his father never spoke to him or any
member of his family about these details.
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The next separate or distinct item I want to mention
concerns the evidence of Ms. Eimear Mulhearn. The
Tribunal has requested the assistance of Ms. Mulhearn
as the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Haughey and therefore
one of the connected persons within the meaning of the
Tribunal's Terms of Reference, in connection with
dealings between Abbeville Stud and Mr. Fustok. It
will be recalled that evidence was given by Dr. John
O'Connell and subsequently indeed by Mr. Haughey
himself, concerning a payment of £50,000 made by
Mr. Fustok through the agency of Dr. John O'Connell to
Mr. Charles Haughey. The Tribunal was informed that
this payment was in respect of the purchase price of a
horse sold by Mr. Haughey to Mr. Fustok. While the
Tribunal has obtained some information from Mr. Fustok,
Mr. Fustok has failed to respond to a number of queries
concerning this matter and other aspects of his
relationship with Mr. Haughey. As Mr. Fustok is
outside of the jurisdiction, the Tribunal cannot compel
him to give evidence.
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Mrs. Mulhearn was involved and has, for some
considerable time, been involved in the day-to-day
running of Abbeville Stud and the Tribunal has
addressed a number of queries to her, through her
solicitors, concerning her dealings whether on behalf
of her father Mr. Haughey or otherwise, with Mr. Fustok
concerning the manner in which the purchase of a horse
by Mr. Fustok was recorded in the records of Abbeville
Stud and concerning the manner in which the receipt of
£50,000 in payment for a horse was recorded in the
records of the stud.
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Mrs. Mulhearn has responded to the Tribunal on foot of
requests for information concerning records at
Abbeville Stud to the effect that the records for the
relevant year are not available. It would appear that
the records of Abbeville Stud are not kept for a period
of greater than six years and this, so the Tribunal has
been informed by Mrs. Mulhearn's solicitor, applies
both to the financial or accounting records and to the
records which one might expect a stud to keep of the
horses the stud has kept of any breeding of those
horses. The Tribunal will wish to pursue with
Mrs. Mulhearn why this policy of six-year destruction
was persisted in, notwithstanding the fact that this
Tribunal had been set up, and the Tribunal will of
course also wish to pursue with her memory, such as it
is, of these or any similar transactions.
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Now, I want to come to evidence which the Tribunal
expects to be given concerning Princes Investments and
in particular a loan made by Guinness & Mahon to
Princes Investments Limited, a company with which
Mr. John Byrne and Mr. Thomas Clifford and his late
brother were involved or associated. You will recall,
Sir, that evidence has already been given by Mr. Byrne
and by Mr. Tom Clifford in relation to the activities
of this company and in relation to a loan made to this
company by Guinness & Mahon. You will also recall,
Sir, that evidence was given by a number of witnesses
concerning a related transaction or related
transactions involving a company known as Central
Tourist Holdings, and attention was drawn to the
similarities between the manner in which the loan made
by Guinness & Mahon to Central Tourist Holdings and the
loan made by Guinness & Mahon to Princes Investment
were dealt with and in each case there were some very
unusual similarities which have already been the
subject of evidence.
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The Tribunal's interest in this matter arose from a
lodgment of £260,000 in July of 1987 to an account of
Amiens Securities Limited in Guinness & Mahon. This
was one of the series of Amiens accounts controlled by
the late Mr. Traynor and was an account which was
frequently used by Mr. Traynor for the purposes of
routing funds lodged to or drawn from the account for
what appears to have been the benefit of Mr. Charles
Haughey. Shortly before that, £260,000 lodgment in
late May and early June of 1987, the account appears to
have been used by Mr. Traynor to channel the proceeds
of the Tripleplan cheque which were ultimately applied
to discharge the outstanding balance on Mr. Haughey's
no. 1 current account with Guinness & Mahon.
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It will be recalled from the evidence of Ms. Sandra
Kells that that lodgment of £260,000 represented the
proceeds of a banker's payment drawn on Allied Irish
Bank, and as I think the Tribunal of may have pointed
out on a number of occasions, a banker's payment is an
instrument which is used between banks where the payee
of a cheque requires value on the cheque more promptly
than within the usual four days required for a cheque
to pass through the clearing process. Resulting from
the Orders of the Tribunal made against Allied Irish
Banks and from, as you will recall, Sir, the most
exhaustive searches carried out by Allied Irish Bank,
it appeared that the source of this payment was a debit
to an account in the Tralee branch of Allied Irish
Banks in the name of Princes Investments. This is a
company with which, as I have said, Mr. Byrne and
Mr. Clifford are associated and indeed of which
Mr. John Byrne and Mr. Thomas Clifford are directors
and is the company which operates the Mount Brandon
Hotel.
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The Tribunal was informed by Mr. Byrne and Mr. Clifford
that the £260,000 payment was made to discharge a loan
made by Guinness & Mahon to Princes. The Tribunal
heard evidence from Ms. Sandra Kells regarding this
loan from which it appears that in July of 1987 when
the funds were lodged to the Amiens Securities account,
there was, in fact, no loan outstanding by Princes
Investments to Guinness & Mahon and indeed, there had
been no loan outstanding for nearly two years. It also
appears from evidence given by Ms. Sandra Kells that
the loan was, in fact, discharged, as I have said, some
two years earlier on the 4th September 1985 with funds
transferred from a Guinness Mahon Cayman Trust account,
that is, transferred from an Ansbacher account.
Between September of 1985 when Ansbacher had discharged
the loan and July of 1987 when the £260,000 payment was
made, fictitious account statements were generated
showing a loan or purporting to show a loan to Princes
Investments. It would appear that these fictitious
account statements were manually forced from the
Guinness & Mahon computer system, there being, in fact,
no way that the computer would have generated them
automatically, and these in turn enabled Guinness &
Mahon personnel to issue interest certificates
purporting to suggest that interest had accrued on
loans which didn't, in fact, exist.
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It will be recalled that the Tribunal heard evidence in
March last that an identical process appears to have
occurred within Guinness & Mahon, as I have already
said, in the case of a loan to Central Tourist
Holdings, a company of which, as I have indicated,
Mr. Byrne and Mr. Clifford were directors and of which
Mr. Denis Foley TD was also a director. That loan was
also discharged on the 4th September with funds
transferred from the self same Guinness Mahon Cayman
Trust account. In other words, the self same Ansbacher
account and once again fictitious statements were also
generated and fictitious certificates of interest
issued in respect of that loan in the period after the
discharge of the loan by Ansbacher.
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The Tribunal heard evidence last June from Mr. Clifford
and from Mr. Byrne. Both Mr. Clifford and Mr. Byrne
stated that they were not aware that the loan from
Guinness & Mahon to Princes Investments was a
back-to-back loan. They did not know, in other words,
that the loan was secured in the form which the
Tribunal has described time and again by an Ansbacher
deposit secured in such a way that on the records of
Guinness & Mahon, there was no clear or express
reference to the security but only a coded reference to
the security of the kind which we have come across time
and again.
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Mr. Byrne and Mr. Clifford stated that they did not
know that funds from Guinness Mahon Cayman Trust, i.e.
that Ansbacher funds, had been used to discharge the
loan. They stated that they did not know who might
have been the beneficiary of these funds. They stated
that as far as they were concerned, the loan was in
fact still outstanding until July of 1987 when it was
discharged with a payment of £260,000.
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The Tribunal will be hearing further evidence from
Mr. Clifford and Mr. John Byrne regarding this matter
and will also be hearing evidence from Mr. Jack
Stakelum.
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It will be recalled that the interest certificates
which were issued by Guinness & Mahon in November of
1985 and November of 1986 were addressed to Princes
Investments Limited care of Business Enterprises
Limited, a company which was controlled by Mr. Jack
Stakelum. Mr. Stakelum has informed the Tribunal that
he has no knowledge of the loan from Guinness & Mahon
to Princes Investments, no knowledge of the repayment
of the loan in September of 1985 or the payment of
£260,000 by Princes Investments in July of 1987. He has
also informed the Tribunal that prior to 1975 when he
was a partner in Haughey Boland, he was involved in
setting up the accounting systems for Princes
Investments and he was, at that time, involved in the
auditing of the company's accounts. After he left
Haughey Boland, he had no further involvement in the
affairs of Princes Investments as such, that is to say
no further involvement in the affairs of the company as
such, but he did have a continuing role in managing the
private funds of both Mr. Thomas Clifford and his
brother Mr. William Clifford and indeed evidence has
been given by Mr. Thomas Clifford that he relied on
Mr. Stakelum as a general adviser. The private funds
under the control of Mr. Stakelum, were placed by
Mr. Stakelum with Mr. Traynor and it was Mr. Stakelum's
belief that these funds, that is to say the Clifford
private funds, were held by Guinness Mahon Cayman
Trust.
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Mr. Stakelum has informed the Tribunal that he was
never asked by Mr. Traynor for the agreement of the
Cliffords that their funds should be used to back a
Princes Investments loan. Furthermore, he has stated
that he was never asked by Mr. Traynor nor did he ever
agree that any of the funds controlled by Mr. Stakelum
and held for the benefit of the Cliffords should be
used to repay the Princes Investments loan in September
of 1985. Mr. Stakelum believes that if Guinness Mahon
Cayman Trust funds were used for that purpose, in other
words, if Ansbacher funds containing some of his
clients' monies were used for that purpose, it is
unlikely that he would not have been aware of it. He
says that if those funds were used, it is unlikely that
they would have involved the Cliffords' funds. He has
further informed the Tribunal that he was never
approached by Mr. Traynor for his clients' agreement
that their funds should be used for such a purpose and
as he received regular information from Mr. Traynor
about the funds under his control, any discrepancy in
these funds would have come to his attention.
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Mr. Stakelum's dealings with Mr. Traynor in relation to
Mr. Clifford and his dealings, if any, in connection
with Mr. Clifford's funds will be pursued in the course
of evidence with a view to amplifying further the
possible connections between or the potential
connections, if any, between those funds and the
dealings Princes Investments had with Guinness & Mahon.
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Mr. Clifford has informed the Tribunal that he
commenced giving money to Mr. Stakelum in 1976 and that
he understood that this money was later placed in an
offshore fund. Insofar as he is aware, Mr. Stakelum
never organised back-to-back arrangements on his behalf
or never organised any back-to-back arrangement on
behalf of Princes Investments. He has reiterated that
he has no knowledge of the repayment of the Princes
Investment loan in 1985 and he has further informed the
Tribunal that he never authorised Mr. Stakelum to use
offshore monies belonging to him for that purpose and
that such monies were not used to pay off the loan due
by the company with which he was associated, Princes
Investments, to Guinness & Mahon.
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It will be obvious, therefore, that there are
continuing questions to be answered in relation to the
unusual manner in which this Princes Investments loan
was discharged and the fact that none of the principals
in the company, so far as the evidence to date goes,
appears to have any knowledge of how the company with
which they were associated achieved such a marked
reduction in its indebtedness in 1985 from a source
with which, so far as the evidence goes, none of them
had any association.
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The Tribunal will be also hearing evidence, at least
hopefully hearing evidence from Mr. John Byrne in
relation to this matter.
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The next item I want to mention is concerning Allied
Irish Banks, and specifically further evidence relating
to the conduct of the business of Allied Irish Banks
with respect to Mr. Charles Haughey's affairs.
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It will be recalled that the Tribunal's first opening
statement and its first sittings were devoted in
considerable part to the operation of Mr. Haughey's
bank accounts with Allied Irish Banks. It will also
be recalled that Mr. Haughey himself gave evidence in
relation to his relationship with Allied Irish Banks
during the 1970s and the early part of the 1980s. It
will also be recalled that in February of 1999, during
the course of evidence from an official of Allied Irish
Banks, Mr. Haughey's counsel on behalf of Mr. Haughey
drew attention to the fact that it would not be
appropriate for Allied Irish Banks officials to give
evidence in relation to, what I might call, comparable
debt situations to that of Mr. Haughey without
reference to specific cases. Mr. Haughey's counsel
indicated that he wished to see how Allied Irish Banks
dealt with accounts which may have been in difficulty
around the same time as Mr. Haughey's difficulties
arose, some with assets equal to or greater than the
assets in the case of Mr. Haughey or some with assets
less than the assets of Mr. Haughey.
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The Tribunal has directed an examination by Allied
Irish Banks of a number of accounts which appear to be
comparable in this sense and has directed Allied Irish
Banks to extract from those accounts a smaller number
of what the Tribunal now believes are fairly
representative cases. Evidence will be given in
relation to the manner in which the bank dealt with
these cases. It is important to bear in mind that
what is involved in this portion of the inquiry is the
manner in which the bank acted, not the dealings
of -- or not the manner in which any of the individual
clients acted. The Tribunal has not had access to
details of the identities of the clients and indeed to
do so would impose an intolerable burden on the
Tribunal if it were to examine a vast range of bank
accounts, involving notice to a large number of lenders
over a very long period of time.
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At the direction of the Tribunal, the bank has examined
a vast number of applications for loans or for renewals
of loans where the bank was lending large sums of money
to personal, as opposed to, corporate lenders. The
Tribunal has focused on personal borrowings involving
lenders engaged either in the agricultural sector or
engaged partly in the agricultural sector and partly in
other sectors. The object of the searches being
directed by the Tribunal was to identify borrowings in
or around 1979 and 1980 of the order of those extended
to Mr. Haughey where settlements were reached involving
either write-offs or the forgiving of large amounts of
interest as would appear to have been the case in
respect of Mr. Haughey's borrowings. Mr. Vincent
Clifford, an official of the bank, has provided the
Tribunal with evidence concerning the material details
of eight cases involving personal, that is
non-corporate borrowings, where there were substantial
write-offs. These eight cases indicate the
enforcement strategies adopted by the bank in the case
of large personal borrowings in or around the time the
bank reached a compromise agreement with Mr. Haughey.
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From the information made available by Mr. Clifford it
would appear that in most of these cases, the bank lent
funds for purposes connected with the operation of or
the expansion of agricultural activities. In the late
1970s and the early 1980s, it will be recalled that
agricultural land was at a premium and very high prices
were being paid by farmers seeking to extend their
holdings or to extend activities on their existing
holdings.
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What the Tribunal has to consider is whether there were
differences, and if so, whether these differences were
material, between the manner in which the bank dealt
with Mr. Haughey's borrowings and the manner in which
it dealt with other large borrowings around the same
time. The Tribunal has assumed that in the cases to be
mentioned in the evidence of Mr. Clifford, the bank's
dealings were strictly commercial and the ultimate
settlements were prompted by essentially commercial
considerations. What the Tribunal has to determine is
whether the differences, if any, between the manner in
which those cases were dealt with and the manner in
which Mr. Haughey's case was dealt with were prompted
by considerations other than commercial considerations.
It's important to point out, of course, that the bank
may not have extended any particular indulgence to
Mr. Haughey but may have been forced to deal with him
on what, for the moment may be described as a more
indulgent basis than the basis upon which they dealt
with other borrowers. The bank may have been forced,
for reasons which the Tribunal will have to inquire
into, to deal more tenderly with Mr. Haughey inasmuch
as the factors surrounding his position and the
connections he had did not arise in the case of other
borrowers.
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In relation to the type of borrowing involved in these
eight cases, it would appear that the activities being
funded were investment activities as distinct from the
activity or the borrowing in Mr. Haughey's case, which
was unsanctioned and appears primarily to have been to
fund his ordinary day-to-day activities.
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It would also appear that in these cases, as indeed in
many of the other cases, the details of which will not
be mentioned, many borrowers were forced to sell lands
and to reduce their overall wealth markedly in order to
perform their side of the compromise arrangements
entered into with the bank. In many cases there were,
as far as the Tribunal can see there were sales of land
or huge diminutions in the overall wealth of borrowers
in order to meet the bank's requirements. One of the
factors which should be borne in mind in relation to
these cases is that they involve the making of
judgments by the bank as regards the investments for
which the borrowings were being made; judgments as to
the value of the investments and the capacity of the
borrowers to repay. Ultimately, of course, whether by
reasoning of changing economic circumstances or
otherwise, these judgments which were no doubt
calculated judgments, proved to have been misplaced.
From the evidence which has been given to date, it does
not appear that there were any similar judgments made
in Mr. Haughey's case.
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Now, I want to come to the last matter the Tribunal
intends to deal with in the course of these sittings
and this concerns Dr. Garret Fitzgerald.
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This evidence arises out of a query raised once again
by Mr. Haughey's counsel in the course of the evidence
given by officials of Allied Irish Banks in February of
1999. Mr. Haughey's counsel requested, through the
Sole Member, whether Allied Irish Banks had any other
politicians on their books. Mr. Haughey's counsel was
signalling the possible relevance of the manner in
which Allied Irish Banks dealt with other politicians
by comparison with the manner in which the bank dealt
with his client, Mr. Charles Haughey. The Tribunal was
not necessarily convinced at that stage, that it would
be relevant to examine the manner in which Allied Irish
Banks dealt with the indebtedness of other politicians,
but in any case, the Tribunal's consideration of the
matter was overtaken by events in that sometime shortly
after these matters were raised at the Tribunal's
public sittings, reports appeared in the newspapers
concerning dealings between Allied Irish Banks and
another former Taoiseach, Dr. Garret Fitzgerald. I
hasten to add that there is no suggestion that Allied
Irish Banks or indeed Mr. Charles Haughey were
responsible for these reports which appear to have been
the result of leaks. But the fact remains that
ultimately Dr. Fitzgerald was prompted to issue a
statement concerning his dealings with Allied Irish
Banks. Those dealings involved a significant
indebtedness and the ultimate settlement of those
indebtednesses on a basis which involved a write-off.
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The Tribunal contacted Dr. Fitzgerald with a view to
examining the matter. Dr. Fitzgerald provided the
Tribunal with total cooperation in relation to this
matter and has provided the Tribunal with every
assistance in endeavouring to examine the circumstances
of his settlement and all of the material documents.
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Before the Tribunal made contact with Dr. Fitzgerald in
relation to this matter, most of the material facts
were already in the public domain. Dr. Fitzgerald's
dealings with Allied Irish Banks were not
contemporaneous with those of Mr. Haughey inasmuch as
they occurred in the early 1990s and not in the late
70s or early 1980s. Although Dr. Fitzgerald was not
in power at the time of the indebtedness which resulted
in a settlement with Allied Irish Banks, there are
useful similarities and differences between the manner
in which Dr. Fitzgerald's indebtedness was dealt with
and the manner in which the indebtedness of Mr.
Haughey -- and indeed, as I have indicated, some of the
other borrowers dealing with the bank were dealt with
by Allied Irish Banks.
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Dr. Fitzgerald has informed the Tribunal that after his
resignation as Taoiseach and also as leader of Fine
Gael in 1987, he was approached by Guinness Peat
Aviation with an offer to join that company's Board.
As a member of Board he was entitled to buy preference
shares. These shares carried special dividend rights
which enabled him to convert them into ordinary shares.
Dr. Fitzgerald purchased these preference shares and
ultimately purchased a substantial shareholding in
Guinness Peat Aviation and in order to fund this
purchase, he obtained significant borrowings from
Allied Irish Banks. At the time these borrowings were
incurred, confidence in GPA was high and
Dr. Fitzgerald, as well as being a director of GPA, had
a number of other sources of income from lecturing,
journalism and consultancy which left him with
substantial annual earnings.
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By 1993, he owed Allied Irish Banks in or about
£170,000. It had been his intention originally to
discharge the capital sums borrowed out of the proceeds
of the disposal of his GPA shares. With the collapse
of the GPA public offer in mid-1992, he was, of course,
faced with a serious problem in relation to discharging
these debts, in that the only substantial asset he
possessed was his family home at 30 Palmerstown Road in
Dublin. He decided that he would have to continue with
a fairly demanding work load and indeed would have to
increase this work load and that he would also have to
contemplate disposing of assets. He retained advisers
to deal with the matter on his behalf, in particular,
the services of an accountant and a former banker and
ultimately reached a settlement with Allied Irish Banks
on the 17th November of 1993 which involved the payment
of £40,000 amounting to a 22.5% of the total amount of
the debt outstanding, together with an assignment of
the shares which were then much depreciated in value.
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In order to fund this settlement, Dr. Fitzgerald
entered into an agreement with his son whereby his son
agreed to purchase at an independent valuation, his
only asset, his home at Palmerstown Road subject to the
carrying out of certain works which were designed to
enable Dr. Fitzgerald to continue to be accommodated in
a top floor flat to be used as an apartment for himself
and his late wife at a rent of £6,000 per year for six
years and rent free thereafter. The construction of
the additional accommodation and the clearing of the
mortgage to which the house was then subject left him
with a net residue of £30,000.
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After the settlement with Allied Irish Banks in the sum
of £40,000, Dr. Fitzgerald, like many of the borrowers
or the unidentified borrowers who will be mentioned in
Mr. Clifford's evidence, was left with a marked
reduction in his net asset wealth. In his case, he had
lost his family home and was left with a tenancy
interest in the property.
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CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Healy.
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